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#1 2013-11-04 16:48:17

plmday
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What is the model of archBSD?

I am new here.   I have read the About page of archBSD but still do not get the model.  What parts are from Arch (packages, yes, what packages?) and what from BSD (freebsd, yes, what part of it, kernel only?)

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#2 2013-11-05 17:44:57

Amzo
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

The entire base is a pure FreeBSD world, kernel, userland etc. The package manager is from arch as well as how the packages group, optional deps, provides, install scripts etc.

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#3 2013-11-06 03:12:44

plmday
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

Amzo wrote:

The entire base is a pure FreeBSD world, kernel, userland etc. The package manager is from arch as well as how the packages group, optional deps, provides, install scripts etc.

So archBSD switches from Ports to ABS.  Is that correct?

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#4 2013-11-06 09:37:01

Blµb
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

Yes.

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#5 2013-11-06 17:24:41

plmday
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

Blµb wrote:

Yes.

What is the motivation for the switch?  I have the impression that the BSD community are always proud of their Ports.  I also notice recently FreeBSD starts rolling out their next-generation package manager, PKG-NG.  What is the reason?  Note that I am not questioning the existence of the project.  I am just curious and want to understand the project better.

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#6 2013-11-10 12:19:48

Amzo
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

While they may be proud, there are still a lot of downfalls to both ports and pkgng. Ports are filled with horrible patches, Makefile carnage, and with a selection of fixes / hacks to make sure things are compiling. These in general are making ports quite an un-maintainable mess. Take gnome for example, Deprecating an older version, and merging in a new version is proving to be long and tedious. I'm pretty sure there are still port remains of gnome 1.x.

PKGNG suffers from problems also, and flawed code. Since the pkgng repository has multiple versions of one package. Specifying the package but not the version won't bring in the newest package version, but rather fail.

An example of this is xchat, there are multiple versions in the pkgng repository.

But overall, this project is jsut a pet project, and pacman has a few more benefits over pkgng. Groups, provides, for example.

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#7 2013-11-10 16:24:50

Blµb
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

Something must be wrong with my browser. It shows some strange text about a "pet project"...

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#8 2013-11-10 17:33:09

Amzo
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Re: What is the model of archBSD?

Well, I'll call it a pet project until things get a bit more stabilized tongue

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